Despre becurile economice si lumina lor extrem de slaba
|Probabil ca n-ati ratat campania realizata atat de ONG-uri cat si de diverse state si companii cu privire la incurajarea utilizarii becurilor economice. Sunt cateva marci extrem de cunoscute care ofera la nivel international astfel de becuri.
Bineinteles ca daca e ceva ce poate fi utilizat pe termen lung, ceva care sa aduca si economii si sa ajute si mediul am zis da si am luat astfel de becuri.
Imi place sa citesc – se stie. Si chiar daca nu mi-ar placea sa citesc, tot mi-ar placea ca atunci cand aprind lumina intr-o camera sa nu am senzatia ca nu vad mai nimic.
Am incercat 2 marci: Osram si Philips. Becuri de 120W (care consuma doar 24W). Ati zice ca avand 2 * 120 W e lumina intr-o camera de bloc obisnuita. Nu v-ati putea insela mai rau. In prima seara lumina a fost puternica – e drept. Din a doua insa… lucrurile s-au schimbat radical!
Setul 2 de becuri nu are nici macar jumatate de an, nu e folosit in mod special – doar a fost vara, ca atare s-a intunecat la ore mai tarzii…
Si-atunci de ce ai sentimentul ca iti poti baga cu usurinta degetele in ochi cu marile becuri ecologice de la mari firme? De ce acelasi lucru il constat in casa mamei si a catorva prieteni care au facut aceeasi nefericita alegere?
Are careva becuri din acestea energy saver care sa si fie eficiente? Nu de alta, dar cele doua becuri ce consuma dupa cum scrie pe pachet cate 24W dau cam 80 max W). Ar trebui – pentru a avea lumina – sa iau inca minim 2 – dar lampa e deh, doar cu doua suporturi pentru bec. Inainte cu 2 de 60 era foarte ok in camera… acum… Ar trebui INCA o lampa cu inca minim 2 de 120@ (consumatoare de cate 24W) adica in final, unde naiba e economia si afacerea, daca vreau sa vad BINE? Ca eu la mine constat ca ar trebui sa am 2 lampi in camera – sau sa dau bani pe una cu mai multe locuri pentru mai multe becuri si sa iau mai multe becuri care sa dea aceeasi lumina slaba. Ah si sa nu uitam ca de la o zi la alta parca lumina e mai slaba….
True, true! Eu în loc de 2 x 100 W am două economice care nu fac nici cat unul singur de 100.
Ma gandesc serios sa reclam la OPC, dar nu sunt convins ca au cum sa masoare lumina emisa. Oricum, pe becuri nu scrie cata lumina emit ci doar cat curent electric comsuma, asa ca e teapa cumparatorului…
Dar eu, care n-am gasit decat becuri de 75W din cele noi… Cred ca problema poate fi si ca astea noi au lumina filtrata prin stratul albicios – nu stiu daca se califica la categoria “lumina alba”, fiindca m-am impacat destul de bine cu neoanele.
Dar da, si mie mi se pare ca ma chiorasc mai rau, chiar daca ale mele au abia 1 luna. Ma rog, o fi doar puterea lor…
Si inca tu ai gasit de 120W – eu doar de 75 🙁
Ma gandesc ca poate are de-a face cu filtrul alb de pe becuri – nu sunt sigura totusi ca asta le califica la categoria ‘lumina alba’ (cu neoanele m-am inteles binisor pana acum)
@Ovidiu – pai… daca pe pachet scrie 24W si apoi 1500 lm inteleg ca acel bec ar trebui sa aiba un flux de o intensitate luminoasa de 1500 lm. uite ca aici din pacate nu mai am pachete de la becuri vechi – dar o sa caut – poate vad cat aveau trecut becurile vechi – asta apropo de OPC si masurari.
@Rita da, am gasit prin hypermarketuri de 120 stai linistita insa ca in afara de bani mai multi de dat n-ai ratat nimic. Si nu, nu are legatura ce zici tu cu intensitatea pe care ar trebui sa o ai 🙂
Ar trebui poate sa luam masuri zic eu – nu de alta, dar e chiar ingrijorator (iti poti strica ochii citind la aceasta lumina) si mincinos totul.
Pe mine ma deranjeaza lumina lor alba nu stiu daca o sa ma pot obisnui cu ea, parca e mai sensibila cu ochi lumina galbena.
Eu am cu lumina precum becurile anterioare – galbena. 🙂 Dar ale tale sunt cu adevarat puternice si eficiente? (ma refer la becurile energy saver)
Daca stau sa ma gandesc mai bine, cred ca ai dreptate. Eu mi-am intesat casa de becuri economice de ceva vreme, am si uitat cum e cu alea normale. Pana la urma, m-am obisnuit…
Chiar discutam acum o saptamana cu niste prieteni veniti in vizita despre aceste becuri si imi spuneau ca nici la ei nu e prea multa lumina. Si facusem apoi un calcul: cate becuri aveau inainte si cate au acum – ca sa obtina aproximativ aceeasi lumina. Stii care e raspunsul: acum au mult mai multe becuri care in total consuma mai mult decat cele 2 becuri pe care le aveau inainte! Intre timp nu mai au doar o lampa ci au trebuit sa isi puna si niste “aplice” pe pereti – adica investitii in spart peretii, cumparat acele aplice si tot asa. Iar cum becurile economice sunt in fapt mult mai putin eco – daca ne uitam la mercurul continut – nu pot sa nu ma intreb de ce ne-au fost bagate pe gat!
Va trebui sa te obisnuiesti pentru ca cele cu filament vor disparea. Doar daca nu cumva te aprovizionezi pentru o viata intreaga cum am citit despre o batranica din UK care si-a luat sa-i ajunga vreo 30 de ani.
Eu n-am avut probleme cu luminozitatea lor, am luat de la IKEA de 20W=100W clasic dar unul a cedat dupa 6 luni. Nu cred deci ca si-a scos banii.
Da, stiu ca nu mai sunt – sau se gasesc foarte greu – a fost doar si o campanie in care s-a introdus obligativitatea tuturor marilor magazine de a le scoate de la vanzare pe cele traditionale.
Si eu am luat de la Ikea – una dintre seriile de becuri.
Din pacate insa… nu-s multumita – desi am ales becuri puternice, de la marci de top. E drept, la mine inca nu s-a stricat (efectiv) niciunul.
Sa adaug cumva ca acasa la mama sunt cateva becuri “vechi” de 60 sau 100 in functiune de vreo 5-6 ani si nu au nimic?
Sunt o teapa imensa, mai ales daca stii cat de multa se energie se iroseste pentru producerea lor. Mult mai multa decat la becurile tungsten. Solutia s-ar putea sa fie LED.
Da – s-ar putea sa fie – dar tot ma deranjeaza campania aceasta anti becuri “vechi” si mai ales eliminarea unei optiuni.
Domnilor experti in diverse domenii,
sunt din Bucuresti, am 40 de ani si va rog sa-mi explicati(lasand campania la o parte), cum de se face ca in familia mea am iesit mult din calculele dumneavoastra, astfel:
sunt nevoit sa schimb becurile ec.(le folosesc de vreo 3-4 ani), la 3, 4 sau 5 luni pentru ca se ard iar pretul pentru 5 buc. intrece cu mult pretul energiei electrice consumate cu incandescente/1 luna!
Cum ramane cu ecologia, ca eu am acum in fata pe cel de pe hol, care nu mai merge, si demontat are 14 piese electrice si electronice si daca punem 1 tona**o nimica toata in industrie si comert**, din fiecare piesa reiese un cost si o poluare mult mai mare decat sticla, filamentul si fasungul unui bec normal!
Eu nu mai inteleg nimic!!!!
A! Si sa nu uit!
Vedeti ca daca aveti intrerupatoare “moderne”, cu led rosu, se ard dupa 3sau 4 saptamani(noaptea scintileaza din cauza intrerupatorului cu led, pana se duc).
cu respect,
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